217: The Cloud Pod Whispers Its Secrets to Azure Open AI

Episode 217 July 07, 2023 00:39:53
217: The Cloud Pod Whispers Its Secrets to Azure Open AI
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217: The Cloud Pod Whispers Its Secrets to Azure Open AI

Jul 07 2023 | 00:39:53

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Hosted By

Jonathan Baker Justin Brodley Matthew Kohn Ryan Lucas

Show Notes

Welcome to the newest episode of The Cloud Pod podcast – where the forecast is always cloudy! Today your hosts Justin, Jonathan, and Matt discuss all things cloud and AI, as well as some really interesting forays into quantum computing, changes to Google domains, Google accusing Microsoft of cloud monopoly shenanigans, and the fact that Azure wants all your industry secrets. Also, Finops and all the logs you could hope for. Are your secrets safe? Better tune in and find out! 

Titles we almost went with this week:

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News this Week:

01:27 Vault 1.14 brings ACME for PKI, AWS roles, and more improvements 

Overall, Vault 1.14 is a significant release with a number of new features and improvements. If you are using Vault, I recommend upgrading to the latest version.

AWS

03:36 Announcing the AWS Amplify UI Builder Figma Plugin 

04:15 Justin- “I went in and set this up today because I had never actually used Figma although I heard lots about it. So I signed up for my free account. I signed in for the plugin for Amplify and then I remembered I don’t know how to use Amplify. So it didn’t go so well for me but I’m gonna keep tackling it because one thing I’m not very good at is front end development and anything that makes me better as a front end developer would be a plus.”

04:40Jonathan – “Figma works really nice; it’s great for prototyping.”

06:44 AWS Transfer Family announces structured JSON log format 

And that very exciting announcement is linked to this one…

07:14 AWS Transfer Family announces Drummond Group Applicability Statement 2 (AS2) Certification

07:52Matt- “I read this headline and I looked at it and I went, wow, I’ve set up TransferFamily at least two or three times, set up all the logs and never have actually looked at them to know that it was not in JSON format.”

08:31 AWS launches AWS AppSync abstraction

08:59 Matt- “So they added it to CloudFormation and to SAM?”

09:02 Justin- “Apparently that’s what they did. And wrote a blog post about it! So thanks, Amazon! We really appreciate that.”

09:20 AWS Announces Generative AI Innovation Center 

10:40 Justin – “…they had a lot of AI and ML features, but they didn’t have anything as revolutionary as chat GPT. So generative AI is where all the hotness is right now, and they are definitely lagging behind just a little bit.”

GCP

14:26 Google Domains is shutting down; assets sold and being migrated to Squarespace 

14:59 Justin- “I mean, if you can’t make money on 10 million domains I don’t know what you’re doing wrong.”

16:10 Jonathan- “Something as fundamental as domain registration for cloud users seems really weird to me that they would sell that and basically resell through a partner.”

19:58 Google Formally Accuses Microsoft of Trapping People in the Cloud 

20:57 Jonathan- “It’s kind of a weird conversation, because the free market’s the free market. The business should be free to set the prices they charge for any product, for any customer. I mean, if you think about enterprise discount agreements, anything like that is a mechanism to provide different pricing to different customers based on usage of either one resource or combinations of resources. So on one hand, I’m like ‘they should be able to charge whatever they like to whoever they like and the market will figure things out’. On the other hand, it is such a monopolistic position to be in.”

23:20 Trace Exemplars now available in Managed Services for Prometheus

24:36 Matt- “As things become more serverless, everything kind of becomes in its own little areas, tracking everything and tracking requests and all the different pieces that go through your system, has been a problem. And that’s why AWS came out with X-ray, and APIMs andall these other things exist. So it’s just another way to do a lot of the same things. It’s nice that it’s integrated into Prometheus. If you’re running your own stacks of Prometheus and Grafana, it’ll be nice to be able to do it all in one place versus having to use different tools for different aspects of your monitoring solution.”

Azure

26:01 Microsoft Azure OpenAI lets enterprises feed corporate secrets to ChatGPT 

Microsoft wants to make it easier for enterprises to feed their proprietary data and queries into Open AI GTP-4 or ChatGPT within Azure and see the results. What could go wrong? 

27:31 Jonathan – “We talked last week about Google telling their own employees not to use generative AI, especially barred for coding. I wonder if Microsoft will do the same thing.”

27:51 Matt – “Microsoft doesn’t use any chat GPT – any anything along those lines. They disable all the code pilot plugins on all their integrations.”

28:34 Justin – “ I can see the advantage of having an AI LLM model in place to help you do things. But data privacy is the biggest issue in all this. And I kind of agree with Matt, if it’s secret, don’t put it anywhere that you don’t trust it or don’t control the endpoints. And maybe cloud isn’t right for you for that particular use case.”

**Side note, any listeners who want to get Jonathan a birthday gift, his list is at 29:18**

30:00 Accelerating Scientific Discovery with Azure Quantum

30:56 Jonathan – “I hadn’t really considered that we could use the generative AI tools to actually write code for quantum computers actually. That’s very useful to know because it’s such a weird and limited language… but getting from a business idea, to code, to actually something that actually runs on quantum computers is a massive step. And actually being able to extract that and have Copilot write that code for you is super interesting. ”

31:39 Matt – “I would have gone with terrifying, but interesting also works.”

31:53 Public Preview: Network Observability add-on on AKS

And with that, we’re all burned out on logs. Networking and otherwise. 

Oracle

Continuing our Cloud Journey Series Talks

33:40 How to build a FinOps roadmap | Google Cloud Blog

30:31 Jonathan – “I like thinking about not just where we’re wasting money, but why we’re wasting money and how we’re wasting money and what is it that got to that place where the finance is knocking your door… So I think one of the things that I’d focus on, would be processes and tooling and figuring out, well, why do we end up with all these objects in an object store that we don’t need or want anymore? Or why do we have all these instances stood up and that no one’s responsible for?”

38:15 Justin – “In the Google model and their steps, they talk about first defining your stakeholders, which is your CCOE, which we talked about a lot, if you have one. Engineering team is a stakeholder, your platform team is a stakeholder, the business and of course your accountants and finance team, who are the people yelling at you probably that you need a finance practice because the costs are out of control. But that’s really kind of step one.”

Closing

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