223: Get an AWS Spin on Savings with Cost Optimization Flywheel

Episode 223 August 18, 2023 00:32:14
223: Get an AWS Spin on Savings with Cost Optimization Flywheel
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223: Get an AWS Spin on Savings with Cost Optimization Flywheel

Aug 18 2023 | 00:32:14

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Jonathan Baker Justin Brodley Matthew Kohn Ryan Lucas

Show Notes

Welcome episode 223 of The CloudPod Podcast! It’s a full house – Justin, Matt, Ryan, and Jonathan are all here this week to discuss all the cloud news you need. This week, cost optimization is the big one, with a deep dive on the newest AWS blog. Additionally, we’ve got updates to BigQuery, Google’s Health Service, managed services for Prometheus, and more.

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General News this Week:

AWS

No AWS news – so that should tell you we’re DEFINITELY getting close to announcement season. 

GCP

01:35 Introducing new SQL functions to manipulate your JSON data in BigQuery 

03:58 Justin – “Well, you only know that a NoSQL solution makes it once it gets a SQL interface. That’s how you know it’s truly become web scale.”

06:25 Introducing Personalized Service Health: Upleveling incident response communications

07:22 Jonathan – “You can guess how that product turned out, or started out. I guess it’s, how do we not tell customers that we have all these outages? Let’s make a personalized dashboard that they actually have to configure before it shows anything.”

13:48 Improved cost visibility and 60 percent price drop for Managed Service for Prometheus

15:17 Matt – “I always wonder what they do on the backend to get such a good price reduction? And then my next question is, how long has it been there they haven’t given me the price reduction that they’ve been making that much profit on it?”

15:32 Justin – “I was wondering these things too, is the reason why people aren’t adopting it is because it’s too expensive? And is it really a margin builder for them – or is it that they weren’t getting any revenue from it? So now they have an opportunity to get more revenue because customers now aren’t saying, oh, that’s too expensive.”

16:33 Ryan – “I’ve never seen someone like, ‘let’s use Prometheus!’ and then be cost aware about that choice… those two things don’t happen.”

Azure

16:50 Azure Storage Mover support for SMB and Azure Files

Oracle

18:55 Introducing Oracle Compute Cloud@Customer 

21:37 Justin – “So anytime someone uses @Customer or @Ppartner like this, I have horror stories back to the company I worked at where we did SaaS @partner, which was terrible; where we basically took our SaaS application that we managed and we’re like, ‘we’re going to go run it in a data center owned by a partner who’s going to resell it.’ And that was terrible. And I did it twice with the same leader – the same guy came up with the same dumb idea two different places; failed both times. And yet I had to go implement it both times and have it fail. So it’s great. Super awesome.”

Continuing our Cloud Journey Series Talks

23:01 Cost optimization flywheel 

26:53 Matt – “So in the rare occasion I defend Azure, this is if you have essentially it’s the same thing as AWS with the, like you get X number of IOPS per gigabyte for GP2, they have the same process with Azure file share for like DFS on AWS, where like, or sorry, FSX on AWS, where you like, you get X number of gigabytes per IOPS. And if you need more IOPS, then you have to just provision more storage space.”

27:20 Ryan – “It’s more of an artifact of PIOPS being too expensive though, right? Then like, that’s just the cost model. Like, so it’s, it’s because you can achieve better results, more cheaper by doing it that way versus, you know, how it’s supposed to be, which is if I needed high, high throughput, I should be able to check the box for PIOPS, but it’s so ridiculously expensive. It doesn’t make sense to do so.”

27:55 Jonathan – “Just in general, I don’t like this blog post at all. I don’t like the diagram. I don’t like the write-up. It’s really amateurish. My eight-year-old could have drawn a better diagram of this. If you really want the proper diagram, go to FinOps Foundation and look at their framework and the phases of their framework. They have basically the same thing. Inform, optimize, and operate. going around a little circle, and a really nice cloud-agnostic write-up of the process that you should be following.”

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