214: The Cloud Pod Loves Inspector Gadget

Episode 214 June 05, 2023 01:00:42
214: The Cloud Pod Loves Inspector Gadget
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214: The Cloud Pod Loves Inspector Gadget

Jun 05 2023 | 01:00:42

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Show Notes

Welcome to the newest episode of The Cloud Pod podcast! Justin, Ryan, Jonathan, Matthew are your hosts this week as we discuss all things cloud and AI, as well as Amazon Detective, SageMaker, AWS Documentation, and Google Workstation. 

Titles we almost went with (and there’s a lot this week)

The Cloud Pod becomes the cloud docs The Cloud Pod loves inspector gadget The Cloud Pod documents the documentation The Cloud Pod bangs its shin, since geospatial abilities are lacking The Cloud Pod bangs its shin, since we lack geospatial abilities The Cloud Pod bangs its shin, if only we had geospatial abilities Unlike the Cloud Pod, Alibaba Cloud exits the stage Retiring AWS Documents on Github… or how we laid off too many people in our document team and can’t support this albatross anymore ️Microsoft Builds AI tools at its Build Conference and Wants you to Build More

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News this Week:

01:29 Alibaba to Exit Cloud Business After Beijing Undercuts Potential 04:30 Justin - “We're basically entering a very Cold War period between the US and Chinese. And so that's gonna be interesting to see how that continues to shake out. I saw some articles this week as well, like in the information about VC firms trying to exit their investments in China and just realizing that it's not gonna be the growth engine they expect it to be. I mean, we talked about here on the show even some of the supply chain issues with China, with the cloud providers and how it's impacted them. And now, I just saw this week, Apple just announced that they were making chips with Broadcom on US soil for some things. So, there's definitely an undercurrent in our politics about China in general.”  05:46 Matt - “On the flip side, I'm kind of curious to see how taking this business unit out of the general Alibaba is going to work, especially with everyone starting to yell that the big tech companies are growing too large and everything. If this could be an interesting test balloon to see how AWS could spin out of Amazon, GCP could spin out of Google, Azure out of Microsoft, it could be an interesting playbook to see how they start to divide up the business units.  06:15 Justin - “I really don't see anyone doing that unless they're forced to by the government.”

AWS

06:29 Amazon SageMaker Geospatial Capabilities Now Generally Available with Security Updates and More Use Case Samples 7:15 Jonathan - “My first thought was, well how can those poor farmers afford technology like this? And I'm thinking, ahhhh no, we're talking about like Monsantos.” We’ll be interested to see how AWS uses this tech over time, potentially for PR purposes.  10:07 New – Simplify the Investigation of AWS Security Findings with Amazon Detective 12:21 Retiring the AWS Documentation on GitHub 14:33 Matt - “I'm just more curious of why it was so hard to sync them.”  15:58 Jonathan -”If they can build out ES and orchestrate SQL server clusters, you'd think they could orchestrate copying some docs up to GitHub. Seems a little odd.”  16:37 Jonathan - “I’m sure it has nothing to do with the fact that they don't want Microsoft using all the contents of github to train AI models or anything else…” 17:00 Welcome to AWS Documentation

Have you seen this portal? Come check out the weird page with us! Maybe you can also send in a complaint about the weird graphic design. We are *not* fans.

19:23 AWS partners bring choice of temporary elevated access capabilities to IAM Identity Center 20:09 Ryan- “As someone who's working towards developing this very same solution for a different project, this is fantastic. I think that the ability to have temporary access to cloud resources is a big key. And then especially if you're already leveraging an identity provider, being able to couple those together within IAM Identity Center is fantastic. So I like this.”

GCP

27:28 Cloud Workstations is now Generally Available!  30:49 Jonathan - “I like the idea of having a standardized desktop with all the tools already installed because it just really sucks to see - especially new employees - spending a month getting things set up. However, I do value my ‘not connected to the internet’ time and I can sit on the plane and do some work locally. There's plenty of opportunities that will be lost, I think, by forcing people to only use this.”  31:12 Ryan- “It's a good option, right? When I think about some of the struggles with data science and access to data, this sort of offering can make that real easier, but I don't think it replaces my local workstation.

Azure

34:53 Microsoft Build brings AI tools to the forefront for developers 37:30 Jonathan - “So we were right about low code being a non-starter. I just don't think we quite saw these AI tools coming quite as fast as they have.” 37:40 Ryan - “Drag and drop we knew wasn't gonna work, but if I could just say it… ok! There's nothing worse than trying to figure out, you know, the fields of a data and, and, you know, dimension it the right way. And then screwing it all up and not knowing how to get back to the three changes that go when it was sort of what you wanted, but not quite. And I do really like this. I've been playing around with more and more solutions that are similar… I’m lazier for it, which is great.”  38:28 Jonathan - “I think the race is officially on now between Google getting Bard or whatever integrations and personal assistants set up on Android phones and maybe Chromebooks. We don't really hear much about Chromebooks anymore.” (Says the guys who have spent a quarter of the podcast talking about Chromebooks.)

 Oracle

No new news.

Continuing our Cloud Journey Series Talks

39:54 Security in Cloud Native

45:32 Ryan - “we've had decades of managing security in our environments and data centers and we've built tooling to match. And it's always my favorite cloud experience when the security team comes up and says, oh, we've got a vulnerability at this IP. Like, that's not a thing. Like that IP is gone. It's been gone for a long time. Like it's, you know, it's... It is an ephemeral construct and a lot of the tools are built to identify those sorts of things by stuff that's very static in a data center, but it's not very static in a cloud environment.”

 48:45 Jonathan- “I think the problem is just that everyone had their own very siloed areas of responsibility. So you'd have the virtualization team and the network team and the, you know, release team, security team, they all have their own separate sets of tools with no access to each of those tools. And so it's really kind of like this is the only way that those machines could be scanned was by feeding it a massive subnet and just pinging everything until they got some response from something. or installing agents everywhere. And it really isn't a model that translates well to the cloud and auto scaling groups or managed instance groups.”

 After Show

50:43 “The Need to Visualize a Cloud Infrastructure” aka Justin Does a Thing

www.cloudockit.com

www.lucidchart.com

www.hava.io

Spotted on the Horizon

Next week on the Cloud Pod Podcast…

Closing

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